Akira K+G (Release After 1 Frame)

Dual Shock 2 is a Pad!

 

My bad!! Typo... /versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif I mean an arcade stick. Read and repeat.

 

Hey, no problem.. if it's at all useful it should be shared.

 

Personally, I don't think one should rely on the knee as a combo starter. Keep in mind that even Ohsu Akira misses the knee every now and then. You could easily miss a good combo opportunity if the knee doesn't come out. It's probably better as a wall combo finish imo.

 

This move CAN be reliable, with much effort. The reason everyone wants to use it as a combo starter is that it's SO great! 30 damage, good speed, and a nice, high float. You can't go wrong!

By the way, I posted this on the ONCE AND FOR ALL thread (which, if you can cut through all of the crap I have to do battle with, does have a purpose and is not that bad a place to get advice), but I figured that it can't hurt to put it here. The easiest way to pull Akira's Knee on a controller that I've found is thus: hold the controller normally, and make sure that + is assigned to R2. Flick your forefinger off the corner of R2 as you tap to allow for the longer time you press that. This strategy should give you enough of the tantalizing move to get you practicing it and on the road to success. As soon as you spend a few minutes with this type of attempt, I am sure that you'll find hope that it is possible to perform it in versus and such.

Hope this makes an impact out there, and please come over to the ONCE AND FOR ALL thread to discuss this and all of the other most difficult moves in the game to perform!

/versus/images/graemlins/grin.gifBanshee

 

Wow, you mean like exactly what SenoB wrote in his post?
I bet he stole it from you! Keep up you posting Banshee and you should report to mods when people steal your ideas (cause you yourself are on a good way of becoming one!).

Anyways... I've been in debate about the knee on the pad being made consistently before and yada yada it's easier to do the knee when moving abit first. All this (and more) can be found by using that mystical search button ofc (I once pressed it and my cd drive popped out with a cookie. Honest).

When using dash , back dash , CD forward and CD backwards if you enter the dash command and then enter a attack command, there will be a delay of exactly one frame even if you buffer the command . But by entering the directional button portion of the attack command in the first half of the buffer period (when only directional commands are recognized), you can avoid this delay and launch your attack as quickly as possible. That's why you should try using the knee on a pad from a small forward dash first (it's easier) as shown in this clip: Creed doing knees thru forward dashing.

 

The trick of it is to use the corner, and not use the and buttons, but the + and buttons. If you clip the corner just right, it should give you a frame of both kick and gaurd, and then you tapping the button will prolong that enough to allow you to pull the move! It's inspiring, I tell you.

By the way, the dash does seem to help, thanks.

 

If you rely on the config of your controller pad to do the move, won't you have problems doing it in the arcade or with a joystick?

 

This was just for pad users, it has no bearing on people who play in the arcade or on a stick. Besides, my pad settings are this way anyway.

 

yeah, so you have a way of performing the knee easily? well, do u have any threads that feature you or someone else doing the knee on a pad? i have to see it to believe it.

 

Ive been practicing and can get it about 30% of the time now /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Im a pad user so I changed triangle to instead of . Then I just slide my thumb right across both and lift it a bit so is held a bit longer.

I still dont do it consistenly enough to use it in combo. I got 3 times in a row once.

 

Here's a tip, put your index finger on , your middle finger on , and your ring finger on to make playing Akira (and for that matter, any character) easier. It's hard to adjust to, but it's worth it as it makes his moves easier to execute.

 

<font color="ff3366">put your index finger on , your middle finger on , and your ring finger on to make playing Akira (and for that matter, any character) easier.</font>

I disagree. I played like that for a long time, but I recently tried using the thumb for the guard button, index finger on punch, and ring finger for kick. After a period of readjustment, it works great. Not only for input reasons, but it just feels more natural. I don't have to rotate my wrist and hand to make sure that the three middle fingers are involved.

 

heh, I just hit both + then pretend by thumb slipped off the button, lol. Hey it works for me!

 

On a stick, i find it best to move the thumb laterally a lot more than vertically... pull it towards your hand while smacking it against the corner of the button... hard to do reliably, but what technique isn't?

 

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ghostdog said:
thumb for the guard button, index finger on punch, and ring finger for kick

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hey that works pretty darn good, thanks for the tip.

 

i believe i have found the single most easiest way to do the knee (pad players only)

place index finger of k+g (which is the R2 button), place thumb on the k button (which should be the "circle" button), get the "corner" feel of both buttons, then simutanelsly "snip" them both quickly and at the same time...a.k.a, scrath their edges, AND, don't worry bout releasing K before the g and all that shit /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif
works 4 me when i played on the pad
-w/t stick its quite easy

 

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rustybolt21 said:
scrath their edges, AND, don't worry bout releasing K before the g and all that shit

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You have to release not and either you're bullshiting or you must be holding down without noticing it, because you MUST hold down the kick button (even a little), in order for the knee to work. Scratching ''sniping'' both at the same time doesn't work.

 

first of all i am not holding & , im holding +
& (holding & feel extremely awkward), ---if you snip these buttons simutaenously on the pad (and really really fast too), there is a good chance your INDEX finger will leave the R2 button faster than you thumb, and the knee will come out. worrying about releasing before only makes things more complicated. using this technique i can get the knee to come out on the pad about 85% of the time-----and if this doesn't work for you,...well than it doesn't work 4 you /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

i actually started to do this for the first time today can get it out around 70% of the time.
this what worked for me go into free mode pick display type B.
now just start pressing the G button to get a feel for the amount of frames your holding for.
now just go for pressing the G button so it glances or grazes on the edge of the button should start lowing the frames till you get it about right you will get a feel for it and feel quiet comfortable withit.
now the crunch press G but this time with K.
dont work about the K just still feel for the G glancing or grazing off the edge of the button whilst pressing and staying pressed the K release the G button.
something else that work for when i started to do the move i would release the K button straight away and mess the timing up.
now i found what works quite well is holding the K button after the release of G and watching the move complete on screen.
so really all you need to get down is the intial G button which is more of a glance or graze and the rest will follow .
most ive manage in a row was four its a great move if you can get it down and well worth the effort.

one thing i am using a v4 joystick.