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VF5 Ver.C Brad Command List

Discussion in 'Brad' started by Myke, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    VF5 Ver.C Brad Command List

    The Xbox 360 port is based on Version C.

    The summary of Ver.C changes, from akai's thread:

    Brad
    O | /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif | ??Semicircular, evade toward back??
    O | (ducking) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif | +2 on hit
    O | (long ducking) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif | ??Staggers on hit??
    X | (long ducking) /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif | ??

    O = change applies to command list data
    X = change does not apply to command list data

    If you find any corrections, or wish to discuss the command list, then post in this thread.
     
    Myke, Dec 16, 2007
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  2. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
    Could you please add to the list that /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+ /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif the last /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif can be cancelled into /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif or /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif just like his /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif?

    It's an unlisted move in the game command list also.
     
    tonyfamilia, Feb 18, 2008
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  3. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    Confirmed, should be up in the next command list update. Thanks, tony.
     
    akai, Feb 26, 2008
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  4. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    Np. I was looking at Brad's frame data and saw that PP is still -5 on block for version C. Is this correct?
     
    tonyfamilia, Aug 6, 2008
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  5. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    I think so. After /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is blocked, I can crouch under a throw attempt in training mode.
     
    akai, Aug 7, 2008
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  6. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    D'oh! My bad, I meant ON HIT. It's always been -5 on block but the real question is: is it really -5 on hit?
    Sorry for the confusion.
     
    tonyfamilia, Aug 7, 2008
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  7. akai

    akai Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

    PSN:
    Akai_JC
    XBL:
    Akai JC
    I think is -5 on normal hit, for both version B and C. Two reasons:

    1) Sega's supposedly "complete list" of move changes did not mention this move.

    2) After /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif NH (-5 frames):
    Brad's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (11 frames, 12 damage) failed to beat Brad's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (16 frames, 22 damage).
    Brad's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (11 frames) beat out Brad's /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif (17 frames).

    The frames might change if you are going into one of his slipping stances as KoD has shown with other characters' stance changing moves.
     
    akai, Aug 11, 2008
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  8. tonyfamilia

    tonyfamilia Well-Known Member

    Damn, that's sad, same frames on hit or block /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif
    Thanks for testing this /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
     
    tonyfamilia, Aug 12, 2008
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  9. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    erdraug
    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    It's an elbow, tested in dojo with vanessa set to neutral. Making a post in the relevant thread ASAP. </div></div>
    Copy pasted from the "stance dancing" thread.
     
    erdraug, Jan 28, 2009
    #9
  10. Myke

    Myke Administrator Staff Member Content Manager Kage

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    Myke623
    XBL:
    Myke623
    Command list corrected.

    PT /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif now listed as elbow (EL) class.
     
    Myke, Feb 2, 2009
    #10

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