VF4 Evo Throw Escape List

Drift · Nov 16, 2003

I wrote the following to help me train throw escapes. I'll post it here in case it could help anyone else. If there are errors, let me know and if you feel my prioritized throw escape directions need work, let me know that, too.

VF4Evo Throw Escape Guide
=========================
Author: Drift++
Version: 1.0
Date: Nov. 15, 2003

THIS DOCUMENT IS PUBLIC DOMAIN. DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH IT.
DISCLAIMER: This guide is by no means perfect. Accept it.

Notation:
High Throw List
Throw Command Damage (Note: IR, stagger, set-up, switch, light down attack, catch)

Escape List
f : # of throws that escape with this direction (damage potential/wall damage potential)
df : "
d : "
db : "
b : "

Low Throw Escape List
List of low throw escape commands

Ground Throw Escape List
List of ground throw escape commands

Sections omitted where not applicable (characters with no low throws, etc.)

u,uf,f,df,d,db,b,ub joystick directions (Hold if capitalized)

^-- means to perform this command during the execution of the pointed-to command

====================================================================
Akira
=======
High Throw List
P+G 35

df P+G 40 (52 w/ light down attack)
df P+G 65 (wall in back) (77 w/ light down attack)

db P+G 00 (switch)

f,b P+G 00 (pull-in throw set-up)
^--P+K 20
^--u/d P+K 25

b,f P+G 50 (40 w/ IR)

b,df P+G 28 (switch)

db,f P+G 62 (50 w/ IR)

b,d P+G 10 (stagger)

Escape List
n : (35)
f : 2 (50,62)
df : 2 (40/65,28)
d : 1 (10 stagger)
db : 1 (00 switch)
b : 1 (25 PIT)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 55 (opponent turned away)

====================================================================
Pai
=======
High Throw List
P+G 40

f P+G 50
f P+G 60 (wall in back)

df P+G 00 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

D,f P+G 60

f,f P+G 50

f,b P+G 15 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

f,d P+G 15 (set-up of crouching opponent)

b,f P+G 25 (set-up of opponent turned away)

b,d P+G 10 (stagger)

270b P+G 60

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 4 (50/60,60,50,25 setup)
df : 1 (00 setup)
d : 2 (15 setup,10 stagger)
db : 0
b : 2 (15 setup,60)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 10 (opponent turned away) (set-up)
Low Throw Escape List
d P+K+G
f P+K+G

====================================================================
Lau
=======
High Throw List
P+G 25 (38 w/ light down atack)

f P+G 45
f P+G 60 (wall in back) (73 w/ light down attack)

D,f P+G 65 (55 w/ IR )

b P+G 40
b P+G 60 (wall in back) (73 w/ light down attack)

b,f P+G 50 (63 w/ light down attack)

df,df P+G 60

b,d P+G 10 (stagger)

b,df P+G 50 (40 w/ IR)

Escape List
n : (25)
f : 3 (45/60,65,50)
df : 2 (60,50)
d : 1 (10 stagger)
db : 0
b : 1 (40/60)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)

====================================================================
Wolf
=======
High Throw List
P+G 40

180f P+G 80 (60 w/ IR)

270f P+G 80

180b P+G 70
^-- P+G 45

b P+G 60

b,df P+G 65

df P+G 50
df P+G 70 (opponent's back to wall)

df,df P+G 70
^-- P+G 70

db P+G 00 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

f,f P+G 50 (catch throw)
uf P+G 50 (catch throw)

CATCH/CHANGE THROWS
f P+G 00 (goes to CATCH)
P+G 45 (after CATCH)
f P+G 00 (after CATCH, goes to CHANGE)
df P+G 00 (after CATCH set-up)
db P+G 55 (after CATCH)
b P+G 50 (after CATCH)

b,b P+G 00 (goes to CHANGE)
P+G 60 (after CHANGE)
f P+G 00 (after CHANGE stagger)
df P+G 65 (after CHANGE)
b P+G 70 (after CHANGE)

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 3 (80,80,00 CATCH)
df : 3 (65,50/70,70)
d : 0
db : 1 (00 switch)
b : 2 (70,60)

Side Throws
P+G 50 (on opponent's side)
b,f/f,b P+G 60 (on opponent's side)

Back Throws
P+G 70 (opponent turned away)
uf P+G 60 (opponent turned away)
d P+G 80 (opponent turned away)
P+K+G 80 (opponent turned away and crouching)

Low Throw Escape List
d P+K+G
df P+K+G
db P+K+G
Ground Throw Escape List
d P+G
df P+G

====================================================================
Jeffry
=======
High Throw List
P+G 35

f P+G 50

b P+G 40 (0 w/ IR)

d P+G 45

df P+G 50
df P+G 58 (wall in back)
df P+G 65 (opponent back to wall)

db P+G 00 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

b,f P+G 25
^-- f P+G 40
---^--f P+G 70
---^--b P+G 75
^-- b P+G 60

b,df P+G 30
b,df P+G 60 (opponent's back to wall) (75 w/ light down attack)

db,f P+G 60

b,f,f P+G 65

df,df P+G 70

Escape List
n : (35)
f : 4 (50,75,60,65)
df : 3 (50/65,30/60,70)
d : 1 (45)
db : 1 (00 switch)
b : 1 (40)

Side Throws
P+G 50 (on opponent's side)
b,f/f,b P+G 60 (on opponent's side)

Back Throws
P+G 70 (opponent turned away)
d P+G 75 (opponent turned away)
P+K+G 80 (opponent turned away and crouching)

Low Throw Escape List
d P+K+G
df P+K+G
f P+K+G
Ground Throw Escape List
d P+G
df P+G

====================================================================
Kage
=======
High Throw List
P+G 40

f P+G 00 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

b P+G 40 (0 w/ IR) *See Note
^-- u P+G 60

df P+G 40 (53 w/ light down attack)

b,f P+G 45

b,d P+G 60
b,d P+G 70 (wall in back)

uf P+G 50 (catch throw)

P+G 50 (from Jumonji) (catch throw)

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 2 (00 switch,45)
df : 1 (40)
d : 1 (60/70)
db : 0
b : 1 (60)

*Note: The infamous TFT. ALWAYS escape this throw.

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
f P+G 00 (on opponent's side) (switch)

Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)
f P+G 00 (opponent turned away) (switch)
P+K+G 60 (opponent turned away and crouching)

====================================================================
Vanessa
=======
Defensive Style
High Throw List
P+G 40

db P+G 00 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

f P+G 43

180f P+G 60

f,d P+G 53

270b P+G 53

f,f P+G 30 (opponent back to wall) (stagger)
^-- f P+G 75 (opponent back to wall)
^-- b P+G 70 (opponent back to wall) (83 w/ light down attack)

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 3 (43,60,75)
df : 0
d : 1 (53)
db : 1 (00 switch)
b : 1 (53)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 60 (opponent turned away)

Offensive Style
High Throw List
P+G 40

f P+G 43

270f P+G 60

180b P+G 28 (goes to TAKEDOWN)

df,df P+G 50

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 2 (43,60)
df : 1 (50)
d : 0
db : 0
b : 1 (28 TAKEDOWN)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 60 (opponent turned away)

Low Throw Escape List
d P+K+G
df P+K+G

====================================================================
Goh
=======
High Throw List
P+G 40

f,d P+G 47

180f P+G 65

180b P+G 65

f,f P+G 27 (set-up)

b P+G 45

f,b P+G 40

270f P+G 70

df P+G 45

df,df P+G 40

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 3 (65,27 set-up,70)
df : 2 (45,40)
d : 1 (47)
db : 0
b : 3 (65,45,40)

Side Throws
P+G 50 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 65 (opponent turned away)
d/df P+K+G 65 (opponent turned away and crouching)

Low Throw Escape List
d P+K+G
df P+K+G
Ground Throw Escape List
d P+G
df P+G

====================================================================
Sarah
=======
High Throw List
P+G 40

b P+G 35 (48 w/ light down attack)
b P+G 60 (opponent's back to wall) (73 w/ light down attack)

f,f P+G 40

b,f P+G 55

270f P+G 62

f,db P+G 45 (58 w/ light down attack)

P+G 45 (from FLAMINGO)

270f P+G 60 (from FLAMINGO)

uf P+G 45 (catch)

Escape List
n : (40,45)
f : 4 (40,55,62,60)
df : 0
d : 0
db : 1 (45)
b : 1 (35/60)

Side Throws
P+G 45 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)
P+K+G 60 (opponent turned away and crouching)

====================================================================
Jacky
=======
High Throw List
P+G 25 (38 w/ light down attack)

df P+G 42

f,f P+G 45
f,f P+G 65 (opponent's back to wall)

f,b P+G 60

df,df P+G 55 (45 w/ IR)

Escape List
n : (25)
f : 1 (45/65)
df : 2 (42,55)
d : 0
db : 0
b : 1 (60)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)

====================================================================
Shun
=======
High Throw List
P+G 50 (+4DP)

3+DP b,f,f P+G 55 (-3DP)

b P+G 50
b P+G 60 (opponent's back to wall) (+5DP) (72 w/ light down attack)

10+DP 270b P+G 66 (+4DP)

df P+G 00 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

6+DP b,df P+G 10 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

5+DP P+G 40 (turned away / opponent behind)

P+G 50 (from TENTOURITSU)

P+G 50 (from CHOUKAROU)

Escape List
n : (50)
f : 1 (55)
df : 2 (00 setup,10 setup)
d : 0
db : 0
b : 2 (50/60,66)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (+5DP) (opponent turned away)

====================================================================
Lion
=======
High Throw List
P+G 40

b P+G 40 (52 w/ light down attack)

df P+G 00 (switch set-up of opponent turned away)

df,df P+G 45 (40 w/ IR)

D,f P+G 35 (set-up)

f,f P+G 50

b,f P+G 50

f,db P+G 00 (pull in throw)
^-- u/d P+G 55

180b P+G 60

180f P+G 55 (45 w/ IR)

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 4 (35 setup,50,50,55)
df : 2 (00 switch,45)
d : 0
db : 1 (00 PIT/55)
b : 2 (40,60)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)

====================================================================
Aoi
=======
High Throw List
P+G 40

P+G u/t/d/b 00 (setup)

D,b P+G 55

df P+G 50

df,df P+G 42 (52 w/ light down attack)

db P+G 45

D,f P+G 40 (50 w/ light down attack)

b,f P+G 50

180b P+G 30 (setup)
^--f,u/b,u P+G 65
^--f,d/b,d P+G 50
---^--u,d P+G 76
---^--d,u P+G 75 (85 w/ light down attack)

180f P+G 20 (setup)
^--f,u/b,u P+G 55
^--f,d/b,d P+G 40
---^--u,d P+G 66
---^--d,u P+G 65 (75 w/ light down attack)

270b P+G 57

270f P+G 40
^--180f K+G 60

Escape List
n : (40)
f : 4 (40,50,66,60)
df : 2 (50,42)
d : 0
db : 1 (45)
b : 3 (55,76,57)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)
Low Throw Escape List
db P+K+G
d P+K+G
Ground Throw Escape List
d P+G
df P+G
====================================================================
Lei Fei
=======
High Throw List
P+G 45

df P+G 28 (setup)

f,f P+G 45

f,b P+G 55

Escape List
n : (45)
f : 1 (45)
df : 1 (28 setup)
d : 0
db : 0
b : 1 (55)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)

====================================================================
Brad
=======
High Throw List
P+G 35

b,f P+G 40

b P+G 45

df,df P+G 55

db P+G 00 (switch set-up to opponent turned away)

Escape List
n : (35)
f : 1 (40)
df : 1 (55)
d : 0
db : 1 (00 setup)
b : 1 (45)

Side Throws
P+G 40 (on opponent's side)
Back Throws
P+G 50 (opponent turned away)

====================================================================

SUMMARY
Character Throw Escape Directions (prioritized)
Akira f,d,df,b

Pai f,b,d,df

Lau f,df,b,d

Wolf f,df,b,db

Jeffry f,df,d,b

Kage b,d,df,f

Vanessa f,b,d,db Defensive f,b,df Offensive

Goh f,b,df,d

Sarah f,b,db

Jacky df,b,f

Shun b,f,df

Lion f,b,df,db

Aoi f,b,df,db

LeiFei df,b,f

Brad df,b,f,db

Devil7om · Nov 16, 2003

Nice work, cool idea about the whole proritized thing.

Kimble · Nov 16, 2003

Nice work man! /versus/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Shoju · Nov 16, 2003

Very handy. Is it gonna become a sticky?

Ogi · Nov 16, 2003

Thanks DriftPlusPlus
this must cost a lots of time, thanks a lot. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif
You did some great job!

GTO · Nov 16, 2003

ey, thanks for that list. really appreciate the fact that you put out the priority order there.

Myke · Nov 16, 2003

Nice effort on the FAQ. Just a couple of things though:

In the summary, there is no 'b' throw escape against Akira.

In the summary, you might want to re-think about how you prioritised the throw escape inputs. Going off damage alone can lead to some awkward input patterns that aren't very practical. For example, for Brad you had:

,,,

but if you know how a typical Brad plays, you'll find that the + throw is usually used the most because of the setup options. But I can understand that not everybody will have a solid understanding of each character's throws so as a secondary method for priortising TE inputs, you should try to group close commands together and reduce the number of times you go across neutral as possible. So, for Brad, I'd put:

,,, neutral or

I'd only worry about the if there's a wall threat, otherwise enter the neutral TE.

As a general rule for multiple throw escapes, my advice is to think about sweeping the stick in a HCF or HCB motion while you enter + at the key points. You should probably start your half-circle direction in the direction of the strongest throws (f,df or b,db). And it's totally up to you to start or end with the neutral TE, or even do it at all. I don't recommend you try doing neutral TE in the middle of a TE pattern though.

This would be my TE character summary:

Akira: (or if you like, do a DP motion with )
Aoi: (if she's crouching, add somewhere)
Brad: (if wall threat, add somewhere)
Goh:
Jacky:
Jeffry: (if wall, add somewhere)
Kage:
Lau:
Lei:
Lion:
Pai:
Sarah: (or if you prefer)
Shun: neutral,,
Vanessa: DS , OS
Wolf: (if wall threat, add somewhere]

You'll notice that if you just practice the TE pattern, it will get you far against a lot of characters.

Shoju · Nov 17, 2003

This is getting even more useful and is something I'd like to refer back to from time to time. Are you going to make it a sticky?

Myke · Nov 17, 2003

I'll mull it over. In the meantime you can add it to your Favorites and it'll always be available under your "My Home".

Drift · Nov 17, 2003

Thanks for the advice, Myke. I wasn't really going for ease of input so much as I was thinking, "If I am only going to avoid one direction, what should it be?" It wasn't really about multi-throw escapes. And even then, I based my decisions solely on my limited experience. Like I said, the reason for writing the FAQ was to help me get better at throw escapes, period. I'm not the person to ask in that regard. I chose the directions that I thought would avoid the most throws or the most dangerous ones. Your advice shall be taken to heart.

As for Akira's 'b' escape, isn't his new Evo Pull-In throw escaped with back? Or is it not really a throw?

Myke · Nov 17, 2003

[ QUOTE ]
DriftPlusPlus said:

As for Akira's 'b' escape, isn't his new Evo Pull-In throw escaped with back? Or is it not really a throw?

[/ QUOTE ]

The pull-in throw (which isn't new to Evo btw) is a catch throw and is unescapable. However, you can guard against the followup attacks. The VFDC Akira command list for Evo has this information.

Drift · Nov 17, 2003

Thanks again, Myke. I didn't realize that throw was a catch throw (and not new /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif) See, it pays to ask. In the evo in-game command listings catch throws aren't listed as being catch throws and that is what I was going by.

Myke · Nov 17, 2003

No problem, Drift++. Again, good work on the FAQ, it's refreshing to see people taking initiative and think for themselves. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

thebradSHow · Nov 17, 2003

Indeed u r a God among men. /versus/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Drift · Nov 17, 2003

Re: A Better VF4 Evo Throw Escape List

Hey, just wanted to let people who are interested know that after I looked back over this guide, an update is definitely in order and on its way. Unfortunately, prioritized escape directions has to go (simply b/c I am in no position to give that advice.) Follow Myke's advice if you want to actually win. /versus/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Drift · Dec 26, 2003

Re: A Better VF4 Evo Throw Escape List

Hi, again. I've had this for a while now, but I've just recently started my own site to put it on. (right-click and save-as) It is an abbreviated one-page columnar version of my Throw Escape Guide designed for Microsoft WordPad. Go into Page Setup and choose Landscape with half-inch margins. Makes for a good hardcopy.

Even after writing the original guide, I still can't remember all 100+ TE directions, so I refer to this page when I have to. Not much, but I hope somebody can use it.

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