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Vanessa's double bounce wall combo

Discussion in 'Vanessa' started by MakiLeSushi, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    I spent a lot of time in dojo to understand how japanese do with Vanessa a double bounce wall combo on almost all cast (everybody except taka and jeff for one combo). When i say double bounce, i mean use OS [1][K][+][G] and DS [2][P][+][K] in the same combo. And i understood by chance how. I thought that it was about delaying input, foot position blablabla but there s nothing connected to this...
    The reason i didn t find the explanation before was only coz by principe, i practice only in the stage "training room" and today i went in jeffry's stage "Island" and i succeed!!! So I guess the explanation isn t the input or foot position but only the wall itself!!! All stage "half fence" could (in theory) permitt to do this combo. But for any reason, sometimes it fails. So those combos are here just for the fun, nothing else...

    The input:
    • Combo 1 DMG 128 (nh) & 142 (CH)
      DS [4][P]->[3][P][+][K]->[2][P][+][K]->[6][P][+][K][+][G]-> go in OS [1][K][+][G]->[P][+][K][K]->[6][6][K][P]-> and bonus damage [3_][K]
      This combo work on all cast except Taka. For jeffry sometimes it doesn t work so it s better to not use this against him. U ll notice that after the [6][P][+][K][+][G] the wall splatt will be delayed and this is the key to succeed the whole combo.

    • Combo 2 118 (nh) & 129 (CH)OS [6][6][P]->[6][6][K][+][G]->[1][K][+][G]->[6][P][+][K][+][G]-> go in DS [2][P][+][K]->[6][P][3][K]->[K][K]
      Against Wolf instead of
      [6][6][K][+][G] it s better to use [9][K] for a guarantee wall splatt coz the other move fail the big wall splatt if u re not near of the wall
    To be honest, I didn't try on all half fence's stages (only on "Island") and all cast (only on Van Sarah jeff & wolf...) But i m working on it, and if i made a thread about this, it is in case if anybody find something, to share it here... Maybe one day we will find something guarantee with max dmg =)
    For El Blaze Aoi and Eileen those combos can work on all walls but hardly... I repeat, those combo isn t something guarantee so i recommand to use basics combo, but it s for the fun =)

    I ll edit my post everytime i find something =)
     
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  2. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    The video of both combos with Wolf
     
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  3. RafaelLew

    RafaelLew Well-Known Member

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    Just saw it in your channel, this is good stuff! Thank you.
     
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  4. G_A

    G_A Well-Known Member

    Well if you have some basic wall combos to share, you are welcome :D
     
  5. erdraug

    erdraug Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    @G_A: It appears you are right, there are currently no OS wall combos in the combo list. Conversly, the Simplified Vanessa Combo List thread does not explicitly explain DS wall combos. And the Acebreaker Combo Notes translated thread only mentions off-axis wall combos.

    Bread and butter DS wall splat followup should be [2][P][+][K] bound > [6][P][3][K] low wall splat > [K][K] for everyone except Taka. Depending on the distance/axis you can add a [4][P][+][K] before the bound.

    Bread and butter OS wall splat followup should be [1][K][+][G] bound > [P][+][K][K] low wall splat > [6][6][K][P] for everyone except Taka. Depending on the distance/axis you can add a [3][P] before the bound. Max damage involves sticking an extra jab vs. lightweights and ending with [6][6][K][K]

    Unfortunately i don't know what you're supposed to do vs Taka. I am guessing the last portion of the combo should be replaced with [6][P][+][K][+][G] but i can't test it ATM. If someone tests for Taka & for combo damage i'll edit the combo list.
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2013
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  6. G_A

    G_A Well-Known Member

    For those who are interested Acebreaker made a video in answer to this topic and MakiLeSushi video :
     
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  7. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    Ty G_A i didn t see it...
     
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  8. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    Another video about it, i hope it will help... Enjoy =)


     
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  9. CJA

    CJA Well-Known Member

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    Good stuff
     
  10. MakiLeSushi

    MakiLeSushi Well-Known Member Content Mgr Vanessa

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    The explanation!
     

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