UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & results:

copy & paste from the Jamboree thread,

thanks everybody for showing up and traveling from the north and other places, it was very fun and nostalgic¬!!

this event will proceed every month from now¬ i look forward to our next meet ^___^)/ YEY London¬!


prince hatim's post:
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Hi Guys,

About time! Results for the VF4evo RB #1 at ezone. Sorry about the formatting, should be better in the future.

VIDS: http://www.ezoneonline.co.uk/rbvids/vf/

Players were seeded and spread evenly accross the groups.


Groups and group results
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Group A:

1st GeeHo +4 points +1 bonus for qualifying
2nd Yuukun +3 points +1 bonus for qualifying
3rd EV2 +2 points
4th Kevin +1 points


Group B:

1st BK +4 points +1 bonus for qualifying
2nd Optimus +3 points +1 bonus for qualifying
3rd James +2 points
4th shOgun +1 points


Group C:

1st Akairyu +4 points +1 bonus for qualifying
2nd The Prince +3 points +1 bonus for qualifying
3rd Jide +2 points
4th Jason +1 points
5th King Souther +0


Group D:

1st Dan +4 points +1 bonus for qualifying
2nd Sham +3 points +1 bonus for qualifying
3rd Jeffahn +2 points
4th Justin +1 points
5th Raging Silver +0 points


Formula for Final 8 matchup
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1st Group A VS 2nd Group C
2nd Group A VS 1st Group C
1st Group B VS 2nd Group D
2nd Group B VS 1st Group D


Knockouts
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GeeHo -\
--------------> GeeHo -\
The Prince -/
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-----------------------------> GeeHo-\
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Yuukun -\
--------------> Akairyu -/
Akairyu -/
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---------------------------------------------> GeeHo
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BK -\
--------------> BK -\
Sham -/
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-----------------------------> BK -/
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Optimus -\
--------------> Optimus -/
Dan -/
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Optimus VS Akairyu for 3rd place Akairyu wins


Tourny Results
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1st GeeHo +5 points
2nd BK +3 points
3rd Akairyu +2 points
4th Optimus +1 points


Final Rankings
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GeeHo --------10
BK ---------8
Akairyu ---------7
Optimus ---------5
Dan ------------4
Yuukun ---------4
Sham -----------4
The Prince -----4
EV2 ------2
James ------2
Jide ------2
Jeffahn ------2
Jason ----------1
Justin ----------1
ShOgun ----------1
Kevin ----------1
King Souther ----0
Raging SIlver ---0

Thanks to those that helped out and especially Jeffahn for taking some good snaps.

EZONE - Bringing the gaming scene back to life.

 

*runs in embarrasment from my shit matches!* /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

LOL, u know u kicked my ass outside of the tourny media /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

F_BK_vs_GeeHo_4.ASF

If you ever wanted to know about what Pokemon really stands for...

/versus/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

ah...my quarter final games is terrible, frozen up too many times. however i have no complaints for the lack of confidence, since Akairyu killed me with style, only i got to blame for. i must practice harder for the next gathering.

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

Appologies to all for my hideous commentary, I never realised I had such a deep voice. I'll put on my 'telephone' voice next time.....

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

strange seeing my self play, did not look to bad. Fuck i did nto realise i back dashed all the time, dunno why i do that. Can someone tell me what weakness's i need to focus on, throw escapes? back dashing maybe??? To many throws???
hope i can make it next time

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

Watching this with comentary on is pure gold guys =D

Ty so much for posting this ^___^

/KiwE

 

It's very strange actually seeing myself play, I've never seen myself play before. I usually download other people's matches.

Some good matches and great commentating from Hatim.

BTW: shouldn't Dan (Rayne) have 5 points?

**1st Dan +4 points +1 bonus for qualifying

Final Rankings
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GeeHo --------10
BK ---------8
Akairyu ---------7
Optimus ---------5
Dan ------------4**
Yuukun ---------4
Sham -----------4
The Prince -----4
EV2 ------2
James ------2
Jide ------2
Jeffahn ------2
Jason ----------1
Justin ----------1
ShOgun ----------1
Kevin ----------1
King Souther ----0
Raging SIlver ---0

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

your style of play with pai is fine, if anything your "back-dashing" is what gives you an advantage as you control your "spacing" as you hold the advantage they get up, if you know what i mean.

most people try and throw quick down attacks, where you dont, which was good on most of the occation, but some times i feeel you should of hit them with a down punch then back dash.

but who cares u brucked peeps.

but she does hav 3 low throws (we ones and exchange) that could be abused!

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

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Akairyu_Medion said:

BTW: shouldn't Dan (Rayne) have 5 points?

**1st Dan +4 points +1 bonus for qualifying


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that's a good point, Dan should of got 5 points.
however, he is in a bigger group than 1 and 2, played an extra game.
how do you work this out?

G-Ho, your playing style is very strong, back-dashing is hell annoying but works brilliant, dragging your opponent to frustration (ask Optimus) because they are force to play your game, trying to keep a rhythm of attacks while you keep backing off is a good tactic to break your opponent's mindset. IMO, you need to mix your striking options more, i've notice your pattern of attacks and grabs since i've played you alot in troc (still get beaten most of the time though), try mixing differently and i'll be truly f**ked.

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

G-ho, from what I noticed, you play alot on the fact that Pai has alot of moves that people don't really understand and don't know the exact frames of, as well as an agressive reverse nitaku game. I notice that you don't use as many defensive techniques as some other players (BK, or Ollie for example), so sometimes you take a big risk when at a disadvantage by choosing to 'out guess' the opponent, instead of covering yourself with the 'correct' defensive technique (or one of).

Obviously I can't criticise as you whooped my ass, but these are the 'problems' I noticed with your game.

Hope it helps.....

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

[ QUOTE ]
strange seeing my self play, did not look to bad. Fuck i did nto realise i back dashed all the time, dunno why i do that. Can someone tell me what weakness's i need to focus on, throw escapes? back dashing maybe??? To many throws???
hope i can make it next time

[/ QUOTE ]

flowcharts = good, but use her lifting palms launcher more when you have higher advantage. on normal hit you still get advantage to play another choice game.

oki = good, again - rising palms or instant ff+k+g is strong here when opp tech rolls.

Mix-ups = good

Combos = decent, but i think you are missing some of the better ones. PM remi (archangel) as he practices these.

Throw escapes = didnt see any.

patience = not bad, you eat heavy attacks MC if you attack too often at disadvatage.


dunno how, but u've managed to learn pai pretty well, pretty fast.

i always fear pai because she's very strong over the characters i use 0__0, nomatter how much i learn her.

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

Oh my DAYZ i cant believe i almost missed QF_Dan_vs_Optimus_2 ¬!! that Aoi was mad¬!!

lolol, you'd think she's gonna do some hadokens if she carries on like that, /versus/images/graemlins/lol.gif

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

ur right about my combos. i struggle with her rising palm launchers as i never seem to get a float, i know how to do her most damaging combos but when i do get a float i think im shocked its even happened and tend to stick to ,,, +.

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

Hopefully Dan will learn from his torni experience, I heard he was doing quit well in group stages and casuals.
Gwai: Also read this thread : http://virtuafighter.com/versuscity/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/134225/page//fpart/1/vc/1
Help tighten up defence, next torni everyone will be moving and defending like bk /versus/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

Hey Ollie, was doing quite well in the early stages. Cant wait to come back and give ya some. Good offensive play, I kinda froze up. Is Jide gonna be sticking with VF, he mentioned he might not.

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

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Ev2 said:

G-ho, from what I noticed, you play alot on the fact that Pai has alot of moves that people don't really understand and don't know the exact frames of, as well as an agressive reverse nitaku game. I notice that you don't use as many defensive techniques as some other players (BK, or Ollie for example), so sometimes you take a big risk when at a disadvantage by choosing to 'out guess' the opponent, instead of covering yourself with the 'correct' defensive technique (or one of).


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Shaun, the passage in bold you wrote is the very essence of reverse nitaku. It boils down to guesing your opponent will try to throw you and using a big move back at them as opposed to using defensive options.

Nitaku is the "2 choice" ("forced choice tactics") situation. Basically it happens when defense is down by about 5 or 6 frames and all the defending player can do is stop a throw with a strike or a strike with a guard. Its a 50-50 mind game essentially. Reverse nitaku is the opposite in the sense that you're gambling on going for a big move against a throw attempt, eg yoho for Akira.

Well annoying atm, haven't been able to view these matches yet as I don't have the right stuff installed in my office comp (and can't install stuff myself) so I'm trying to track down a mate with a laptop to view them!

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

reverse nitaku is *more* about using a small move to gain back advantage.

by using a bigger move, you give your opponent bigger moves to beat you down harder with. what Ev2 is saying, is that Geeho needs to understand his situation better. rather than resulting to reactive attacking.

Geeho normally attacks after techroll, and here has major disadvantage, so it's very dangerous. the best thing to do is to have your best coverage options solidifyed, and your RN options secondly.


btw, people who use yoho after they have a move blocked normally use ARE yoho ^^).

 

Re: UK VF Ranking Battle #1 Sat 12th Nov 05 2pm - 8pm // media & resul

Precisely. Using a huge move like Yoho when you are down by 4-6 frames is almost stupid, unless you know that you opponent is going to throw (Say, if they have tried to throw in the same situation 5 times in a row). You are just inviting your opponent to use their 'Yoho' on you, and get a major counter hit.
Using the small hit like BK mentioned is more sensible, and is more likely to pay off.