top ten moves

i dont have a top ten because im not very good with wolf, but post the top ten best wolf moves in your opinion so me and others can learn from you guys. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

 

I have a feeling this thread is a joke based on what I suggested in the Brady guide thread...

Anyway, with Wolf I almost think you could break it down into his top 10 attacks AND top 10 throws, since the Throws, Catch Throws and Low Throws are such an important part of his game.

If I had to limit it to 10 total, I'd say:

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My take on wolf.

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That's 10 already, but I'm going to give just a few more that I feel are important enough to note.
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my list~

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not a Wolf enthusiast but GIANT SWING FTW!!! /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif

 

Hey wolf players, whats your opinion on his /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif?

I liked this move alot in VF4 cause it was safe, gave intiative on hit, and staggered on Counter hit. It was fairly fast too.

 

yeah it's good, ~ u can use ARE~reverse hammer on block~ in VF4

dunno about VF5, as u said, it's just a safe stagger tool, but the reward factor is slightly less because you need MC which means it's a nitaku tool rather than a delay tool like goh's shrlm.

 

Why do you list his /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif ?

I can't see any points where I would rather do that move than go into a catch, giant swing or do one of the 360 moves.

From my experience thus far my top ten wolf moves are as follows -


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5 - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

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3 - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif

2 - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif

1 - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/ /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif The defensive hold[/list]

Please remember that all my experience is either online or against a computer controlled opponent.

 

It cant be escaped from.

 

At all?

Damn, time to work that into my game.

Does that go for all jumping grabs as such?

 

It cant be escaped from at all. However its a catch throw and pretty slow, so opponent can more easily crouch under it.

 

I'll make sure to keep that in mind.

Thanks.


Is there a list of Wolf's moves and their effects/ possible follow ups anywhere?

 

Yeah, it's called move list, or command list /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
It's either on this website (upper left corner) or IN THE GAME.
I'm not trying to be offensive, but even if someone just started with VF.... gosh, It's not MUGEN, you don't guess the moves someone created, they are in there, listed, waiting for you to learn them /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

I know that there is a command list.

I didn't ask what his moves were, I asked what their effects and possible follow ups were.

 

Go to the Wiki, bro. Lots of good stuff there. It will get you started, at least.

Look under Akira's pic in the top left of the page and look for Wolf in the VF5 section. This will give you a good headstart. EmX hooked it up.

 

Fantastic, cheers.

 

I have updated my top ten moves since I have become better with Wolf.


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Please remember that all my experience is either online or against a computer controlled opponent.


I have really begun to notice how much control Wolf can potentially have over his opponents.

His lack of speed and high-low strings are made up for with the ability to deal 70+ damage from most situations.

Still, more knowledge of the other characters are needed for me to jump to the next level with the guy.

 

My personal top 10:

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For some reason, I find I use Jackhammer and Turbo Drop more than Giant Swing, which is why they appear high up on the list.

 

Probably because everyone tries to reverse the giant swing.

 

No, I don't think it's that. The Jackhammer I use more because it goes back to VF2 when it was the Steiner's Screwdriver and my most used move then, so I'm used to using it all the time, and Turbo Drop is great in walled stages for the nice /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif bounce combo.