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Throw setups for characters basic and specific

Discussion in 'Dojo' started by DancingFighterG, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. DancingFighterG

    DancingFighterG Well-Known Member

    Yo, this is DancingFighterG. I think one of the biggest things to breaking throws is of course the setup for it. I know throw setups for my characters but what some throw setups for the VF5 cast. I think this will help with beginner VF players like myself get better on antcipating throw breaks.

    Brad throw setups:

    P,6P, Throw
    Phase Turn, Throw
    CD (crouch dash), throw
    4P, K, throw
    Ducking, throw or DD, throw

    Shun:

    Don't know any really. I just throw when it feels good
     
  2. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

    PSN:
    Sebopants
    All characters:

    For Oki. If you think they'll get up after TR/QR with no attack go for a throw. If they crouch and you have low throws, use that.

    After an attack cancel.


    My Jeffry Strat:

    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif
     
  3. DubC

    DubC Well-Known Member

    I hope that Jeffrey strat was meant as a joke.... As such, I'm not even going to waste the time on a legitimate response.
     
  4. DancingFighterG

    DancingFighterG Well-Known Member

    Yo, this is DancingFighterG. Well, I know from previous experience in fighting gmaes that one the best ways to mixup a throw setup is during frame advantage. what are those moves for characters that people should look out for that for instance have advantage on block and is used to setup throws?
     
  5. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

    PSN:
    Sebopants
    I'm totally serious.
     
  6. catharsis

    catharsis Well-Known Member

    There are EXTREMELY few attacks in VF that give you advantage frames on block, unless they're of the block-stagger variety. Typically, you get the frame advantage throw/strike guessing games after your attacks land. Try throwing after a jab counter-hits, for instance, or after a low punch (see Sebo's imba Jeff strat above). Stopping in the middle of strings and throwing instead can work well too.
     
  7. resist

    resist Well-Known Member

    most common and (to some) one of the most effective throw setups for all is 2p(hit), throw.

    simple and more than viable.
     
  8. DancingFighterG

    DancingFighterG Well-Known Member

    Yo, this is DancingFighterG. catharsis, I'm more looking for a list of specific attacks that characters have that are used for throw setups. Looking to better my defense against characters so I least know if I a particular move I should ready a throw break.
     
  9. resist

    resist Well-Known Member

    First and foremost, do you know all of your chars throw counterable attacks...that is your start point. Learn that first as those are situations that are more frequent/consistent. Breaking on reaction is a whole different element that may take years or more (not sure how familiar you are with the game).

    Learn your throw counterable attacks and learn to break after those. Also, learn to break after 2P.

    crawl before walk
     
  10. Unicorn

    Unicorn Well-Known Masher Content Manager Wolf

    PSN:
    unicorn_cz
    XBL:
    unicorn cz
    Yo, this is Unicorn. You would never expect that this post was posted by Unicorn, right? You must be TOTALLY surprised learning Unicorn post this post...

    You know, it is easy to find who post the post, because it can be easily learned from... LEFT PART OF ANY POST. Yo yo yo know?

    Anyway - throw setup for all characters:
    /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (repeat as many times as you feel it can work)->throw
    This one really works (especially with 10-framers), /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif is +2 on block
     
  11. ElectricLeo

    ElectricLeo Well-Known Member

    LOL

    I have a friend who does this. It's quite effective, actually.
     
  12. catharsis

    catharsis Well-Known Member

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yo, this is Unicorn. </div></div>

    Yo!

    DancingFighterG's actually impressively regular with the greeting. Even back when I was a wee lurker on the Soul Calibur boards, I don't think I saw a single post from him that wasn't prefaced with the usual.

    So I say learn to like it; it ain't going anywhere. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif
     
  13. DancingFighterG

    DancingFighterG Well-Known Member

    Yo, this is DancingFighterG. Ok, after doing some investigation last night I see what people are talking about when it comes couterable attacks with characters. The cool thing is that computer kinda tells you them for example with brad's 66K the computer almost always throws. I'm really really trying to get to the point where I can buffer in two throws before a move and after a move is done. Hard as hell and with not playing with people all time I don't know I'm doing right. Need to get my friend to help me with this.
     
  14. Kay

    Kay Well-Known Member

    He jokes that his whole Jeffry game is /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif and the occasional throw, doesn't he?

    I tend to get a lot of side-throws when using Offensive Move and attempting to buffer throw escapes in there. I think that it's a holdover from VF4:Evo.
     
  15. Judah

    Judah Well-Known Member

    He's IS joking. Don't let his punk-ass break balls. It's really more like: /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>wait 1/2 frame for the mini-mastery counter hit chance>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/ub.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/u.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif>jump kick>Black splat down attack, and if they tech. off the jump kick, do the huricanrana Dbplm.

    Damn duh.
     
  16. Sebo

    Sebo Well-Known Member Content Manager Taka Content Manager Jeffry

    PSN:
    Sebopants
    Hey guys, I'm in the room. No need for the pronoun usage.

    I have a name, or rather am referred to as a "Sebo," a nick' I've had since elementary school (though I prefer Sebastian or Norton I or that disappointing Jeffry player who spams up the "Jeffry dojo" thread with his theory fighting antics).
    -----
    But, yes /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif is a joke (tards). I just do /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif(CH)>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif(Blocked)>/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif.

    My hit checking still needs work, among other things apparently. LOL.

    Self-deprecation rules.
     

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