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thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live player

Discussion in 'Xbox Live' started by negative1, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. negative1

    negative1 Active Member

    excuse me for duplicating some of a previous
    post i made talking about the vf5 update for
    the xbox 360...but i just wanted to add some
    more comments.

    background
    ----------
    i am new to the xbox360 (as of 2 weeks), new
    to vf5 (same), and xbox live (as of last week)

    i have played vf1/vf2..skipped 3/4/evo etc..
    i am an average player, best chars : sarah / pai

    impressions:
    ------------
    vf5 is amazing (despite some qualms about the
    major gameplay changes, (see my post vf = fv
    under console)...looks great, and is easy to
    play, hard to master.. i was looking forward
    to playing, but wondered about online play,
    as i have never played anything online, and only
    played vf2 in the arcades against other players
    (which wasn't very many).

    i signed up for an xbox live account, found it
    easy, and worked as described..

    i don't have an internet account, so i went to a
    friends place, and used their high speed connection..

    playing time day 1: 6 hours, day 2: 8 hours
    day 3: 8 hours (straight)..played during
    evenings (US East coast), and a few times in
    the morning..

    notes:
    ------
    started off in the non-ranked mode for day 1,
    i connected about 80% of the time, and had a
    lot of fun, almost 0 lag, even with gray box..

    i lost most of the matches, but that was due
    to 1 - most players were experienced-expert
    2 - played with standard controller (no joystick yet)
    3 - didn't know how to defend against a lot of the
    new characters..

    regardless, it was still a blast, and i didn't notice
    any cheaters, low punchers, or repetitive combo players.*
    (note on this later)..

    i don't have a mic, or webcam..so i didn't hear or notice
    anything bad...most players were very helpful, left comments,
    or wanted to play again, even if they crushed me..

    i made the mistake of replying to some japanese players,
    because i didn't realize they couldn't speak english..

    i think i would have kept playing , but at that point
    it was 5am, and i would have passed out..

    so verdict : all is good

    2) day 2, ranked matches...ok , i thought i practiced
    enough with the unranked...

    the ranked matches were a mixed bag, although once
    again it was highly populated by awesome players..
    i ended up with a very sucky 40w-120losses, eventually
    2nd dan....once again, i found most players helpful,
    left comments, etc... not much response here,
    and also it seemed harder to rematch against players
    without that options..

    i think due to competitive nature of this, i did
    see more players doing safe combos, multiple strings,
    and repetitive moves (low punches) etc, some i was
    able to counter, but not all.... i did not have
    any pullers, but disconnected from a few matches,
    due to bad connection....there was lag in a few matches,
    and i was able to connect about 70% of the time fairly
    quickly....

    i think i was more frustrated at my lousy play, and
    seeing good players that were losing resort to
    questionable tactics (ring outs, low punchs etc) if
    they were about to lose..personally i could care
    less about my record, because i think i picked up
    about 1 years worth of strategy in the last couple
    of days, (that playing in the quest mode would never
    have had)...

    day 3) mix of ranked, and non-ranked, honestly i think
    i like playing the unranked matches because people will
    go all out, and not worry about playing conservatively
    or not....it was great to see all the awesome combos,
    floats, etc from akira, sarah , pai etc...i was underwhelmed
    by all the brads/gohs/lei feis etc that seemed to do an
    endless strings of hits/floats/stomps, and grapples
    that drained all your health after a few hits, and even
    when you blocked/countered, got interrupted etc...
    ok, so maybe i'm a sucky player, but still...


    wishes, final notes:
    --------------------
    great intro to online player (even for better play)
    smooth connections, but wish there were more options,
    lounges, and better replay viewing options..
    (do you think they will ever have a way to watch
    matches between other players?)..

    i wish more players experimented more with
    their moves, did counters, use all the throws,
    etc...and varied their gameplay, i know i do,
    and yes, i resort to some basic tactics, but
    never do the same moves over and over, and have
    never used low punches to win..i even try to
    do counters (badly), and different throws for fun..

    finally, maybe i'm a casual player, but i think
    some players take the win/loss too hard (which is
    their perogative i guess)...but we are here to
    have fun, eventually, aren't we....i think i got
    discouraged after losing about 20 times in row,
    so that's why i went to unranked, not because i
    was losing, but because i wasn't being enough of
    a challenge to most of the players....granted when
    i started winning, or maybe losing 2/3 i stayed around..

    i hope others will give online play a chance,
    an not constantly criticize it, but try to
    improve the overall scene...

    later
    -1
     
  2. StrayDogStrut

    StrayDogStrut Member

    Re: thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live play

    cliff notes?

    I'm second dan too. However, I'm waiting it out in player matches before really giving ranked a good run. My record stands around 35-7, and I usually work anyone around the 5th dan level.
     
  3. KowtowRobinson

    KowtowRobinson Well-Known Member

    Re: thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live play

    I stopped reading after he called low punching and ring outs questionable tactics.
     
  4. negative1

    negative1 Active Member

    Re: thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live play

    yeah, it was a long post..
    anyways, what i meant, is that i don't have a problem with
    that..(since it's part of the game)..

    what i was commenting on were, there would good players,
    that resorted to that in the ranked battles , (not in
    unranked battles), since they were worried about their records,
    instead of concentrating on playing..

    yeah, i could have had a better record if i played that
    way too...

    later
    -1
     
  5. negative1

    negative1 Active Member

    Re: thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live play

    short version:
    vf online is good

    1) ranked matches sometimes cause people to worry more
    about winning causing them to resort more to boring game play
    2) unranked matches are a lot more fun

    later
    -1
     
  6. EmX

    EmX Well-Known Member

    Re: thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live play

    both are fine to me, I just prefer one over another due to the way in which people play
     
  7. EVM

    EVM Well-Known Member

    Re: thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live play

    You lost me after that first paragraph.
     
  8. DevilJin01

    DevilJin01 Active Member

    Re: thoughts/impressions from a new xbox live play

    You get strange topic makers on every forum I guess.
     

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