Strongest Throw Break Directions

Akira - Back
Aoi - Back | 3 hit throw does more damage than forward. - Not sure?
Brad - ?
Eileen - Back
El Blaze - Forward
Goh - Forward
Jacky - Back
Jean - Forward
Jeffry - Forward
Kage - Forward
Lau - Forward
Lei Fei - Forward
Lion - Forward
Pai - Back
Sarah - Forward
Shun - Forward | Back (AFter 10 Drinks)..
Taka Arashi - Back if Lightweight/Forward if heavy
Vanessa - DS | OS
Wolf - Forward

Please correct any mistakes I've made.
Thanks!

 

i tought jacky had is 60dmg throw with forward

 

It's only the damage which matters when you choose the throw break ?

 

Yeah.

Jackys knee strike is his strongest throw. It's still as far as I know

 

For Shun, forward throws are arguably just as good as back past ten drinks. He can actually get 80+ off a combo throw (a little less on heavies) unless an opponent knows to duck right after it and cause the launcher to float lower. A different combo doing basically the same damage as the back throw is available on ducking opponents (I feel like I can probably squeeze out more, but I'm not yet sure how), but in that scenario back is a little better because of the free extra drinks.

So, IMO, it's Forward until 10 drinks, roughly 50/50 after. You can kind of look at it as a choice between damage and drinks, but because his combo throws run into weight class issues and the ducking launcher thing, it's not always that clear.

 

Lion has 60 damage throws on front and back but I'm guessing you're saying forward because of his 70 damage wall throw and 46p+g(for wall set-ups)? Sound logic.

 

No, the damage is not the only thing that matters, but it's probably the first consideration for most (not all) people.

Like you are implying, there are positional considerations and eventually the consideration of reading your opponent's habit.

But generally, before you read your opponent and outside of super-dangerous positions (mainly ring out or being thrown towards a wall), cutting off your opponent's most damaging throw option can be very important.

And of course, at the end of the day, it is still a mindgame. But if I'm going to default to something (until I get a read on my opponent), I'll default to preventing the biggest damage throw direction of my opponent's character.

I'm also willing to absorb the neutral throws to a point too. And if after awhile my opponent seems incapable of doing wall damage, I'll probably discount the throws relevant to putting me against wall (I'll still worry about ring out position though).

And yeah, the phase of the match is important too, if my life is low enough, neutral throw becomes a lethal threat so the skewed throw-guessing game resets to 1/3 (or 1/4 if you count catch throws).

ALL THIS BEING SAID, I don't think it is detrimental to one's game to prioritize and get familiar with the most damaging throw for each character. As I stated above, it's usually my default throw-escape direction until I have a read on my opponent (that read might even start before the match if I've been watching them in lobby or have experience fighting them).

And I've found it incredibly useful to understand which is the most damaging throw direction.

I don't think the original poster is telling people to only think about the most damaging throws. I think they are building an extremely useful reference for people ^_^

People can choose what they do with that reference

 

Lion can do more than 60 damage against some characters with his 2_6P+G throw. I have not verified this with the full cast yet, though for the moment I'm over-generalizing it as non-heavies. I do generally tell the heavies that Lion is 50/50 throw guessing game in the open with good life and no reads.

I will post my findings after I thoroughly test it out with the cast.

Sample Combos (weird formatting is BC of the way I take notes in Evernote):

Vs Lion

2_6P+G
Easy (Any Stance) --> 2P --> 66P+K(G) --> 4PP (D64)

Vs Akira

2_6P+G 
(Forgot to verify stance) 66P+K --> 6_P(G) --> 6_KK (D67)

 

6_kk in a 2_6p+g combo sounds great (damage nice too)!. I'll have to have a look at that when I go on later.

 

Do you guys think you could add ground, crouch and clinch breaks as well? I'm getting killed by those ground throws.

 

Akira- I'm not sure, but versus Taka, is his best.
Aoi- With a wall, . + 0_o
Brad- (free ? very tight timing)
Jeffry- without a wall or ringout threat, . Anywhere near a wall (very close proximity) . Same goes for ground throws (same with wolf too).
Vanessa
DS , for a front ringout threat
OS... er, for guaranteed damage . if can you guess right again in takedown.

 

Kage's most powerful throws are back not forward , strictly speaking, his Ten Foot Toss IS forward, but this requires a combo afterwards to become more powerful than his backwards throws.

 

Forward. Guarantees a light down attack for 63 points of damage.

 

Not sure how much I can add to this because I am new to the game.

For basic players like myself, I'm a little more worried with the amount of throw types a character has. If I know that most of character X's throws are forward escapes, then that's something I prioritize when factoring in throw escapes. At least with people playing on my level, the amount of throws your character has and how to do them is something I'd like to include in my strategy.

I don't know how that fits into this discussion. I guess that it's kind of like player habits like Myke said. If you see your opponent doesn't know about damage and goes through their move list in terms of throws, then you'll increase your chances of escaping by choosing the most likely escape. I also haven't even really fought good Hawks or Jeffrys, so I haven't had to feel that painful damage yet.