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Playing against the CPU? And casual VF players..do they exist?

Discussion in 'New Starter' started by synce, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. synce

    synce Active Member

    I've heard the online is practically dead and the only people playing are pretty good... so I'll probably just stay offline and play against the CPU. Is it human-like on any setting or not? In DOA5 for example it's a joke, but I think that's more due to the broken stun/reversal system.

    And this is kind of related, since another reason I have to play against the CPU is I've never known anyone who's into VF. Usually Tekken or SF, occassionally DOA or SC. What's up with that? Is it go hardcore or go home with VF?
     
  2. Andramelech

    Andramelech Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Andramelech
    I'm not very good either, but I'm getting better with every loss.

    Do what I do. Find the thread for your console type example: gamer tags west coast. Add everybody in there to your friends list. When you see them online, challenge them to a casual room match.

    Ranked matches are full of chicken shit cherry pickers who are only interested in using you to advance. If you start beating them, they then dodge you. They also have no interest in learning or teaching the game and will resort to cheaper tactics..

    Room matches are more casual without rank on the line. Plus, you get to watch when it's not your turn. Hearing other players "talk shit" to each other, will also teach you the game.

    It's true that this game is not as popular as the other kiddy fighters out there. I'm trying to take advantage of that fact right now. I can actually go online and play with top ranking badass players that would otherwise play someone else, and then learn from them.

    Not that the cpu is all bad. I spend most of my time fighting the cpu stll, but it's only as a preparer for fighting humans.

    Look for a "casual gamers" thread as well.
     
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  3. EvenPit

    EvenPit Well-Known Member Content Manager Eileen

    At least once a month or so I like to run through the tutorials just to sharpen up my game. The only time ill play the cpu is on the highest setting in free training just to warm up whenever I'm about to enter a tournament or ranked. I enjoy room matches the most though. Feel free to add me.
     
  4. Genesis

    Genesis Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Genesis Malakh
    There are ways to step up your game without local competition, but if you're mad enough to form your own troupe of sorts, I've found that it is possible to recruit people to the Virtua world over time.

    If you're lacking for a local community as I was, the best thing to do is either search for any players or events in your area (which is how I found out about Final Round), or just be a persistent enthusiast and invite nearly every friend you have visit to play VF with you. It started like pulling teeth, but over time, I have a number of friends that play with me fairly regularly. I'm always on the lookout for more people to play with us. None of my friends are safe from fighting games as a conversation topic.
     
  5. aoi ameindei

    aoi ameindei Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    INSTA_BOLT
    this tread is true i barely go online any more because of this
    the cpu is best on normal for me
     
  6. nou

    nou Well-Known Member

    Don't have online anymore and my game improved because of it because I can focus on what I need to get better at for the most part.

    I only play at the hardest levels in License and Special Sparring.

    What I look for: Attack paterns, stepping patterns, hit-checking and canceling failed evades. There is no shame in losing to CPU and you can actually get ideas from it at the harder levels since it tends to be more mobile, so you can take stepping patterns for yourself and see how to apply them to your game and character. Same with Attack patterns in mirror matches.
     
  7. Neonomide

    Neonomide Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Neonomide
    Side (mid) kicks have been hard for VF CPUs as long I can remember. Even many FS opponents that are pretty nasty on very hard seem to fall for it. However, I see many FS ones also love come to point blank range with some aggressive dashing. Lau CPU seems to be tough for me otherwise but side kicks seem to destroy them.

    I think FS CPU is pretty good and I enjoy it more than 4 EVO so far (I hate to say I hated METEG etc). Special sparring is more fun than ranked laggy spamfest sometimes and it never declines either.
     
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  8. IvorB

    IvorB Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Ivor_Biguns
    You should try special sparring. I train using special sparring on highest difficulty and I wouldn't say they fight exactly like a human being but they certainly fight well. They are ghosts so will frequently fight in a certain way. Sometimes they fight extremely up close and in your face, sometimes they specialise in one move or moves and focus on that. So you will need to evolve different strategies to deal with them. Sometimes focusing on reversals, sometimes counter hits and juggles. You can also learn to action your strategies under pressure. I don't know what your skill level is but the highest difficulty is brutal. They typically kick the sh*t out of me for a long time before I triumph but it's great training. You might want to try an easier difficulty maybe.
     
  9. Neonomide

    Neonomide Well-Known Member

    PSN:
    Neonomide
    One thing to note is that although there certainly are things that Special Sparring CPUs are good doing and worth copying down too, they very rarely do max dmg combos. Some simple ones can be surely learned but CPUs would be much harder if they utilized all wall combo setups and possible dmg. VF 4 Evo CPUs were more dangerous in that sense.

    Considering casual VF players, IMO the only way peeps get into VF is the hard way. They must be told and shown what _you_ enjoy in it and be verbose enough of that. Unlike most other FGs, VF really needs to be explained and shown since peeps have their MKs, SFs and Tekkens ingrained so firmly into their "what makes a fun fighter" mental category.
     
  10. Genesis

    Genesis Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Genesis Malakh
    I can definitely vouch for this. It really is a pain in the ass, at first, but so much fun and worth the effort when you have several friends over and playing that all started because you bugged them to try the game out.
     
  11. Pai~Chun

    Pai~Chun Well-Known Member

    XBL:
    Lishao Tao GPK
    Don't what console you're on, but over Live, if you're patient, you can still find players of wildly differing abilities. Bear in mind time zones and continents.

    Just firing it all back up for the first time this year, I've run into around 7 new tags I never saw last year,with green block connections. The key is to befriend players you enjoy sparring with, or least use the 'positive' player review function post-match to make sure you fight 'em again another night.
     
  12. nou

    nou Well-Known Member

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