Obscure, undocumented moves for [LEI FEI]

Thanks to akirazero for leading to the discovery of these. You'll probably never get to use them once in the game with the exception of the setup akirazero came up with.

If you use one of the special backturned stances, Tiger stance and Evade stance, and then the opponent somehow ends up in front of you, your attacks will change.

Tiger stance with opponent facing you:
- Lei fei does a lunging palm similar to his f,f+P. However the properties are slightly different, as this palm can cause backstaggers while the other cannot. This palm also doesn't force the opponent to change stance.
- Lei does his usual d+K+G sweep, but for some reason it does 5 points less damage (15 vs 20). Doesn't knock down.

Evade stance with opponent facing you:
- Lei does his FC, f+P. Same damage and properties.
- Lei goes into his df,df+K+G canned combo. You can keep pressing K and do all three hits, and the damage for each hit is the same as it is for df,df+K+G,K,K.

The only setup where any of this is useful:
Crumple the opponent with b+P (while in closed stance) and do an immediate u+K. It will cause the strange on-the-bounce-crumple-hit you see mentioned in my backstagger guide. At this point dash in the direction of your opponent, and lei fei will stay in stance. The opponent's TR will take them in a half-circle around lei while he dashes... and at this point you will technically be facing them, so pressing punch gives you the f,f+P-type palm strike. Pressing it with good timing gets you a backstagger, and you can restagger with a f,f+K puntkick if you do it carefully.

That's it. I'll be adding this chunk to the guide... gracias Zero.

PS: If you don't have a buddy and want to see these attacks on the PS2, just record the opponent sitting still for a second, then holding up for a few seconds to do a half circle around you. Play it back and enter evade or tiger stance before they start walking. Make sure you don't hit them with your tiger stance attack.

 

Interesting. I always thought the lunging palm one was common knowledge, though, because I've seen it (And quite possibly tried it) many times before in clips and such during Version B and C time (But not the other attacks mentioned). Hmm, IIRC, some off-timed Ura attempt with the + can produce the same thing against rising attacks. /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

 

yeah, i though it was common knowledge too, these moves are all "old news" to people that like to mess around in practice mode a lot /versus/images/icons/wink.gif the question of "hmm what would hapen with i was facing this way..." crossed the minds of practice mode junkies long ago, but its good that its mentioned in the board. (these havent been posted b4?)

 

I said it was obscure goddammit, not the location of jimmy hoffa's body@!#!@#!@#

Anyway, uhm... I'm glad for both of you /versus/images/icons/smile.gif

 

Whatever. No they haven't. Read the post more closely, or else check your movelists again.

 

They are under back turned attacks

 

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"my bad" /versus/images/icons/laugh.gif

(I didn't think to look for them in the backturned section since lei's face to face with the opponent)