new vids from new players (VF5 O 360)

hey all,
Been playing VF5 sessions at my house since last May excited for FS. Here are a few matches from this weekend let us know what we can work on, trying to level up a bit. thx!

Match 5

Match 4

Match 3

Match 2

 

What capture card are you using?

 

^ hauppauge HD PVR, Gaming Edition but I think its same as 1st model.

 

Match 2: Pai player should do > combo, NOT . Aoi player could do something more damaging than d+k,p,p after . And a bunch of other combo starters really - pai is lightweight. Missing some guaranteed damage after some throws eg. f+p+g and went for an elbow instead of the guaranteed p,k, some of the other throws that end up with the opponent at aoi's feet guarantee a df+p. Pai player should really input throw escapes for aoi's multipart throw (u+p+g, d+p+g).

A pai/aoi player should take it from here.

 

ok cool i'll try p,k after push I was trying to force crouch with elbow those times. I need better combo for

 

After Aoi's 6P+G, you get +15, so elbow 6PP is guaranteed as well ( no need to force anything, it's free damage ), but leave you at -1 on hit. P,K and 64P+KP are more interesting though.
Easy combo against Pai & Eileen after 66K: deep dash, 2KP, 64P+KP for 53 damage.

 

is also guaranteed after + (also leaves Aoi -1 on hit). Agreed about + being a more interesting move to use here though.

And Ghost Cobra... I'm not much of a user of . I prefer to use + more often than not whenever the situation calls for it. You can't really go wrong with either option, but I simply think there is a bigger variety of ways to set up your offense with the latter move than the former. But that's just likely due to my own playstyle. In the end, your playstyle can be different yet just as effective using the way you do.

Kruza

 

Sorry i didn't have time to watch all of the vids in one go. continued from the previous post:

Match 3:

@ Pai player: as stated before i'm not a pai expert but surely pai can punish Aoi's p,p,p,d+k sweep with something better than just WS , right?

Pai's string should be used more. into bokutai is completely absent The Aoi player certainly spams so don't feel bad about spamming Pai's best moves over and over again!

Also, please note that after hitting with you are at -2 frames. I repeat, you don't have the advantage when you hit the opponent with . Stop attacking after that, particularly against Aoi's - none of your attacks should beat it. Try defending or taking evasive action.

@ Aoi player: Tenchi seems to be used mainly in order to get BT, whih seems like a wasted. Don't think i noticed a single reversal either Good usage of Aoi's though.

Please punish pai's , it's minus 20 on block.

Match 4

@ Pai player: yep, still foing then attacking aftrwards But i saw after a throw, so i'm guessing you're starting to learn the setups Saw you using more too Also noticed a nice OM but then you did after the side crumple. A quick look at VFdc combo list reveals you could do p+k > p > f,f+p,k for double the damage

Punish Sarah's somersault with something better than . Punish her with something better than !! Preferably with > combo. Again, if you're not sure about combos have a look at VFdc combo lists: http://virtuafighter.com/combos/index.php?ver=5c&chara=pai

@ Sarah player: punish pai's please, it's -14 on block. Preferably use sarah's f+p+k,p,k. Can't find anything else lacking. Do max damage combos i guess?

Match 5:

@ Eileen player: kinda sucks risk/reward wise ; if you want to use a low i'd recommend using one that at least knocks down on CH.

Good use of and its string ; mix up some strings in there too.

After (eye poke) hits your opponent do , not . Do shoulder ram after low punch, (preferably hitcheck the shoulder ram into qcf+kkk and not just P). Or do WS , that seems to work out for you fine, it staggers your opponent, you could try following up with .

@ aoi player: WHOAH THERE, easy on the cowboy No, seriously though, good job, if it works keep it up.

That's all. As mentioned earlier, not i'm not an aoi/pai/sarah/eileen player, just speaking from my experience playing against these characters. For more info, well, just watch kingofVF4's youtube channel Entertaining games overall, welcome to the forums, have fun playing VF!

 

!!!!!
yea was one point i wanted him to just re-act to it differently so I spammed it.

wow thx all we will try to apply all this during next fights this weekend. I'm def gonna incorporate + more I think I forgot it during battles, and has that nice cancel

 

alright new matches this weekend! Tried to incorporate more counters and learn how to use them smart,
and different setups for Aoi + you guys told me.

Match 6 aoi v pai

Match 7 aoi v eileen

Match 8 aoi v eileen

Match 9 aoi v eileen

Match 10 sarah v eileen

 

You have improved quite a bit already but here are some more tips.

-You need to try to incorporate evades more. Some of the moves that Pai player pulled off such as are very linear and leaves the opponent wide open.

-Your stepping can be very stiff at times. In VF5, just holding a direction with Aoi is not enough. As you can see, she has one of the slowest walking animations in the game. Try dashing more often () when your opponent is at middle range and you'll whiff less.

-You play very risky with the strings. Remember that can go into Tenchi stance with ++ and so can , this can save you if your opponent blocks the string. However, you'll need to throw escape when evading with Tenchi.

-Notice that causes a crouch. On counter hits it allows for a free down throw ( or ++). This inflicts way better damage than just

-Your pressure game can be really good at times until you resort to . Pressure is not just intimidation, it's also about effectiveness. When I say effectiveness I mean; , , + (at middle distance), (at middle distance). These moves have much more favorable properties and a mid attacks as opposed to which can be blocked by even a standing guard.

-I noticed many times you had used and did not use + when you had counter hits. Try practicing this a little more in dojo. Remember every single point of damage you deal counts and can mean the difference between winning or losing by a sliver of health.

All in all, your game is improving and that is what counts! Keep practicing and you'll have a solid Aoi in no time!