Is down attack unblockable or something?

I can't guard down attacks even if I fully stand up /w /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif holding. A lot of people seem to have trouble blocking down attacks after their recovery. So I've started wondering whether it is unblockable or not.

What property does it have when the opponent is fully waked up?
Is it like low or unblockable or something?

 

<s>No their not unblockable, if you wake up in time you can guard against it. You have to block low, though i'm not sure if thats right for everyones down attacks.....

EDIT: oopsie, I Thought the OP was just about heavy pounce attacks</s>

I thought you blocked them high but when I made this post I checked the command list and somehow I thought it said it was a low attack, I should make sure i've woken up before I post, lol.

 

aoi can reverse down attacks. maybe that was ridiculious to post now, but, yeah. i did it, and you cannot change it (laughs)

 

Aoi can reverse down attacks? Neat. How does that work? Does it take some time before you can reverse them or can you reverse the instant they attack you.

 

it isn't quite as rare as you think. If I don't side roll fast enough then I stand up and get hit by one of these moves sometimes. I see this happen at least once a day

 

yep, just look in dojo mode /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

 

So the light down attack is mid and the heavy one is low, but heavy one can be unblockable in some situation.

Am I right on the track, now?

 

One thing I noticed in pre Beat Tribe Cup DVD is that Aoi seems to be vulnerable when she gets up after atempting the down attack reversal. I rememeber one Lau not going for the down attack, letting her try the reversal, then hiting her as she was getting up and iirc it seems as she couldn't block as she was still recovering.

 

I also notice a fair share of people blocking it completely after they stand up.

 

It is based how good they are at timing their recovery. If they get up fast enough they will block the attack regardless even it is right on top of them because they recovered right away. Speaking of that isn't there a lag between the time they recover immediately after being knocked down and before they can actually react or block any oncoming attack frame wise. I never stopped to think about that question.

 

Make me be clear on this...
The heavy down attack is supposed be blocked low, not mid, right?

 

I think it is a mid actually since it does hit people out of a low recovery kick

 

Getting there. In general from what I've heard and experienced, heavy pounces are ONLY guaranteed after certain wall splats, where tech roll is not possible. Otherwise, all heavy pounces are avoidable by struggle and side/back roll, depending on the situation.

 

Yeah when fighting subbers I kept kept getting killed on those reversals after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif. So I started doing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif to fake the move and then doing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/uf.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif. Later I realized that Aoi is vulnerable getting up so I started doing /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif. That leads to a sweet combo. On the whole, the guessing game does not work out to Aoi's benefit IMO.

 

I don't believe Aoi gets any particular disadvantage after rising from a failed down reversal, beyond the standard disadvantages on rising, anyway. There is a whiff animation on the reversal, so failing it means you'll get up quite late, so it does make her predictable, and might even guarantee a down attack will hit during the whiff animation.

I've never heard that you need to block low against pounce attacks before... I don't believe that's correct. I think you can guard them standing just fine, as long as you aren't in the unblockable position that myke described.

 

I got a quick question about heavy pounce attacks, might as well ask here....

Does that technique from EVO still work, where you hold /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/ub.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif the moment they hit the ground? If I remember right if you do that it won't do the heavy pounce if your opponent tech rolls but if they don't tech then it will do the heavy pounce.

 

Have you tested this yet in dojo it would be an interesting thing thing to do if you don't know if the enemy is going to tech roll or not.