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Discussion in 'Xbox Live' started by mlp715, Mar 5, 2008.

  1. mlp715

    mlp715 Well-Known Member

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    im hard wired into my 360 and it seems as if im lagging more now than when i was using the wireless network adapter is there anything that can be done about this?
     
  2. Kidvid711

    Kidvid711 Well-Known Member

    WOW, Wireless gaming isn't the way to go ha ha ha. And the game lag has been minimized to a far extent. I sold my wireless network adapter, it isn't as strong as Ethernet. Stay with Ethernet.
     
  3. KingofcarnageVF

    KingofcarnageVF Well-Known Member

  4. ShinobiFist

    ShinobiFist Well-Known Member

    Now that we're on the subjects of routers and such. How do you open the ports on a two router setup? Here's the thing, I'm on a business plan with my cable company(15mbs) And the main modem is on the top floor(Were I work)connected to a router, were a ethernet cord extends to my floor, and is connected to my wireless router here(my floor AKA were I sleep) I know how to open the ports on a single router, but I have no CLUE on how to do it in a network. I think if I enter the routers IP in the DMZ(router in the top floor) might do the trick.........
     
  5. KingofcarnageVF

    KingofcarnageVF Well-Known Member

    I think you have to make the first router a pass thru. I read someting like that recently but cant remember where.
     
  6. Plague

    Plague Well-Known Member

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    That sounds like the right plan. Any IP in the first router's DMZ should just be visible to the internet.

    Another thought: You can use port forwarding in the first router (just like in the second one). Just go into the first and port forward all the Tcp 3074 Udp 88 Udp 3074 info to the second router's IP (which should be the IP you enter in the gateway field of, say, your 360). Then from the second router, port forward to your 360 as usual.
     
  7. Throwmasta

    Throwmasta Well-Known Member

    Where exactly do you enter "Tcp 3074 Udp 88 Udp 3074" In the Xbox 360 network settings (in the dashboard)? If so, under what? The IP address/settings?

    I have my IP settings set for "automatic." Should I go into manual settings and put in the code above? My Xbox 360 is using my cable modem's IP address. Will using the above settings (wherever I need to enter it) give me less lag?

    Questions about lag:

    Does anyone experience "perfect," lag free games online? If so, how frequently? I'm not sure I ever play a game that is totally lag free, and I'm struggling a bit to adjust to this slower paced gameplay. My connection is supposedly the best it can be (according the cable company, which has tested everything on the inside and out). I'm using a direct ethernet connection from the 360, right to the cable modem (I disconnect from my Vonage device and my PC when online gaming).

    Also, will the person you are playing experience the EXACT same match (in terms of lag) that you are experiencing? Or can it actually be different on either end?? If it is completely shared though, whose signal does the connection accept? The player with the better connection, or the one with the slightly worse connection.

    Sorry for all those questions. It's stuff I've been meaning to ask for quite some time now. I'm really curious about the "Tcp 3074 Udp 88 Udp 3074" and whether or not I need to enter these Xbox settings somewhere to help minimize lag. Thanks in advance!
     
  8. PineTree

    PineTree Well-Known Member

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    I'm in the same boat as Throwmasta and would like to know what to do with these settings. I have both my 360's on wireless, and I know the hardcore will say that this is not the way to go, but I honestly haven't felt the difference or horrible lag that makes me want to switch to ethernet. My net connection is only 7Mbps. I play VF5 just fine with it.

    Maybe I'll make the switch if it makes a noticeable difference, but that means running cable throughout the house and stuff.
     
  9. Stiff

    Stiff Well-Known Member

    Lag is mostly affected by how far away the person you're playing is and the quality of the connection between the two of you.

    You could be playing your buddy down the street, but if he's downloading torrents it's going to suck.

    You might also fail to connect to the guy down the street as he doesn't you both don't have Open NATs.
     
  10. Throwmasta

    Throwmasta Well-Known Member

    So can anyone tell us what to do with "Tcp 3074 Udp 88 Udp 3074"?
     
  11. Ash_Kaiser

    Ash_Kaiser Marly you no good jabroni I make you humble... Bronze Supporter

    Those ports need to be opened on your router itself. To access your router, open whatever web browser you use and enter the IP of your router in it. If you don't know that, check the link in King's post above, and select your router.

    It'll ask for a login name and password. Assuming you haven't changed it, it'll be the default that the link says. From there, follow what the guide tells you. It's pretty straightforward.
     
  12. Throwmasta

    Throwmasta Well-Known Member

    Are those settings only good for a "router?" I'm using a direct connection to a motorola surfboard modem (through comcast)...

    My 360 uses the IP address from my cable modem I'm guessing (since my IP settings are on "automatic" in the the 360's network settings).

    I visited that port forwarding link, and it seems to only contain a model number list for routers, no modems. And I didn't see anything regarding that tpc setting that was posted earlier. Is there any use for it with a direct connection to the modem (not a router)? If I can further minimize lag, that would be great.
     
  13. MotorCityJacky

    MotorCityJacky Well-Known Member

    Yes, those port settings are for router use only and are only needed if and when you use a router with a cable modem. There really isn't any way to tweak your cable modem to reduce lag. If you really want to reduce lag further buy a fatter pipe, I hear fiber is good for low pings..
     
  14. Throwmasta

    Throwmasta Well-Known Member

    thanks for the answer :).

    Can anyone answer to the earlier question. When 2 people are playing online, are they both experiencing the same connection in terms of lag? Also, are both players playing off the person with the better connection, or the person with the worse connection (assuming that one's is better than the other's)?
     
  15. Stiff

    Stiff Well-Known Member

    A fatter pipe will not reduce lag, assuming you have even a 512k connection with no other downloads going on. VF doesn't need a lot of bandwidth. I don't know about fibre/fiber connections but I hear they are pretty good. Any network will be most affected in practical terms by how heavy the traffic is, so how many people are using the service. If you're in a street where everyone is on cable and everyone is maxing out their connection, you'll probably have a terrible time, with lag spikes and stuff. That generally doesn't happen to that extreme, but you may well find your connection appears worse at peak usage times. Not much to do about that.

    A lot of people confuse the capacity of a line (the fatness of the pipe) with speed. It's not like that.

    I always assume that the connection is roughly equal for both parties, as all you're doing is exchanging data. Though I had someone complaining last night that I had a 'bs advantage' so who knows? You don't really have the issue that one connection is worse and one is better, because you're both making a connection between the 2 machines. If you were both connecting to a seperate server then you would generally have the person nearer (better ping) to the server at an advantage. Because both machines are talking to each other, it should work out evens - so both players should experience the same lag more or less.
     
  16. Throwmasta

    Throwmasta Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info!
     

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