Akira Wall Questions

Hey!

Somewhat new to VF and was just curious about applying effective strategy near the wall. Most of the time when I get near the wall my offense turns into a hodgepodge. Some random stuns, combos etc. Are there any moves I should look to use more that give stagger on wall hit? I'm not asking for a combo list(been studying) but is there any particualr sequence that seems to work well once you have lifted an opponent near the wall? I understand that spacing is a consideration, I'm just wondering about big damage vs okizeme that you wouldn't normally get.

Thanks in advance.

 

If you're going for wall stagger, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (normal hit) work great. If your opponent doesn't struggle fast enough, you can get SPoD.

There are a bunch of moves that cause wall splat. Most common are /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif. I've done it with KNEE and /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif as well. I think /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif does it, too.

Crazy stuff if opponent doesn't struggle well...

/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (wall stagger), /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (wall splat), /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (bounce), /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

When diagonal and close-ish to wall...
/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif, /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (wall stagger), /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif (side crumple), /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif (bounce), /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d_.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif

The above produces one of those rolling type of wall staggers and leaves the opponent side-turned (in reference to you). In both cases above, once you've connected after the stagger, you're opponent can not avoid the rest of the damage.

 

MUST TRY THIS! OMG! I DIDN'T KNOW /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif O_O /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif

 

HAH Konjou... It's funny bc you didn't use side splat on my akira at all... in the one game we played. :0

Thank you plauge for the info. I've been reading up on the character specific combos, and it definately seems that against lightweights he can float to the wall pretty easily. I'll see if I can incorporate those moves, and try for some setups in my next session tonight.

I'm thinking in situations where the opponent has throw strong throw escape abilities, you can 1p+g to switch and then apply any of the above moves. Is he at any particular advantage after 1p+g?

-fetz

 

You'll love it. I think I captured one in a saved replay in the last week or so - but that replay won't go to YouTube for some time.

FetZ - I'm not sure of Akira's frame advantage after /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/db.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif. There are no guaranteed attacks after it's use. You do get kuzushi attacks, however. As akiralove posted many months ago, if you MC /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/d.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif, you get stomach crumple and you can follow up as you like.

 

I like the "demi-simple - demi-damage" combo /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif - /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif+/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif!/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif.
It is a must for black book wiki (yeah, it's not black book, but cool)

 

If the kuzushi single palm hits normally, Akira is at +13, although the enemy will be very distant. Body check does connect (13 frames of execution and range is enough), I'd like to know whether it's the same for byakko (I can't buffer it so I can't really check this one)...

 

Yoho gives wallsplat after wallstagger too but you have to delay it loads.

you should be able to use /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/g.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif + /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/k.gif instead of /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/df.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif> /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/b.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/f.gif /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/p.gif against lightweights.